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28 January 2017 @ 04:36 pm
How to find out if your potential dream job is scam  
A job seeker asked me if "Reliance Capital Limited" company that contacted her is a legitimate employer.
Judging by the company name and the way they communicated with her (text-only) - it probably is a scam.

But in order to find out for sure if recruiter is real deal:
1) Call them (scammers frequently try to avoid talking on the phone and hide behind text messages and emails).
2) Assume that there could be a scammer on another end and do not reveal your sensitive personal details.
3) Typical signs of scammers:
- Bad phone connection quality (because scammers frequently use internet proxy).
- _Heavy_ foreign accent from a poor country (typically Nigerian accent, but occasionally could be Russian or some other accent). The scammer would may insist that they are in the US or in London.
- Incoherent business story (ask them what they sell to their customers).

Originally posted at: http://dennisgorelik.dreamwidth.org/123182.html
Сисадмин-любительulrith on January 29th, 2017 07:51 am (UTC)
Sign 1 and 2 look ridiculous... although... sign 2 may be not - in the new brave Trump world... :)

I think you didn't give any reasonable way to detect scammers in this post.

Probably you should implement some scummer detection system on the site based on user-generated content - like employers reviews/stars/like-dislikes...

Edited at 2017-01-29 07:53 am (UTC)
Dennis Gorelikdennisgorelik on January 29th, 2017 10:33 am (UTC)
> Sign 1 and 2 look ridiculous

Most scammers do not want to talk on the phone.
I see it in my own experience.
I learn it from job seekers who these scammers are trying to defraud.

Job seekers actually agree to start working for some remote internet dude without even talking with them on the phone.
Some eventually even start printing checks on the behalf of these "employers".

If they simply talked on the phone - they would quickly changed their minds.

> employers reviews/stars/like-dislikes

We collect some user-generated ratings.
But only few people have time for that.
Сисадмин-любительulrith on January 29th, 2017 10:52 am (UTC)
Your answer is irrelevant because I'm talking not about your numbered items but about your three signs which are mentioned after item 3 of your post

Edited at 2017-01-29 10:53 am (UTC)
veremeenko_alex on February 1st, 2017 12:27 pm (UTC)
1. Снять дамп вручную или через ProcDump
2. Скормить в Debug Diagnostics Tool
3. Вдумчиво изучить результат

Похожая ситуация была с горбаж колектором - при одном особом кейсе шло дикое выделение/освобождение памяти, этот тред и вешался.
veremeenko_alex on February 1st, 2017 12:29 pm (UTC)
черт, не туда, это для - http://dennisgorelik.livejournal.com/124693.html
Dennis Gorelikdennisgorelik on February 1st, 2017 02:51 pm (UTC)
1) Можно же удалить комментарий и запостить его под соответствующим постингом.

2) Спасибо, может быть попробую поковырять Dump в следующий раз.

В этот раз проблема, вроде бы, решена.

Edited at 2017-02-01 02:51 pm (UTC)
Konstantin S. Uvarinlodin on February 1st, 2017 10:00 pm (UTC)

1. I hate talking on the phone, prefer text & e-mail.
2. I have Russian accent.

"What do you sell to customers" makes perfect sense though.
Dennis Gorelikdennisgorelik on February 1st, 2017 10:48 pm (UTC)
> 1. I hate talking on the phone, prefer text & e-mail.

You are not hiring anybody either.