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31 December 2011 @ 10:58 pm
The joy of tech: Christmas past and Christmas present  

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ex_juan_gan on January 1st, 2012 07:54 am (UTC)

Этот с собачкой, он вырос, и изменил мир к худшему. А может и к лучшему.
Lana Kafkaxyzs on January 11th, 2012 03:47 am (UTC)
С Днем Рождения!
Dennis Gorelikdennisgorelik on January 11th, 2012 04:10 am (UTC)
(Anonymous) on March 30th, 2012 07:55 pm (UTC)
you are very skillful, I liked your debate with geish_a re: that Florida shooting. She tends to turn every debate in this meaningless exercise of semantics, but there is always a chance to demonstrate that she is not only logically inconsistent but also morally corrupt. When she is cornered and she knows it, she resorts to pedestrian personal insults. The more you pressure her for logical response, the more she's pissed and out of balance. If you want to see what happens next keep applying the pressure. Otherwise, well done, she needs this type of douche once in a while, just to flush all that debris floating in her small head.
Dennis Gorelikdennisgorelik on March 30th, 2012 08:07 pm (UTC)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I'm actually trying to understand her motivation. Why is she doing that? She seems to be intelligent enough to recognize some of tricky logical fallacies, but seems not to be able to apply the same technique to evaluate her own. I still did not figure out why it happens...
(Anonymous) on March 31st, 2012 06:45 am (UTC)
She is a mystery wrapped in enigma :))). I don't know, but I have a strong suspicion that she is trying to prove something (but what?)
Dennis Gorelikdennisgorelik on March 31st, 2012 06:55 am (UTC)
She's obviously trying to prove that she's right.

The question is: why is it so important to her?
(Anonymous) on March 31st, 2012 09:42 pm (UTC)
I have a theory explaining why this is so important to her. Somewhere in the 1990s she has learned couple of things that shaped the image of true western style feminist (important!) liberal (very important!) intellectual in her head: live in NY City, become some member of second tier academia, teach something meaningless and make a lot of noise about it, read The New Yorker Magazine etc., etc., etc. Somewhere in that list one can also find horn-rimmed glasses, tolerance in its most impotent forms and other cliches of the 90s. So this stuff stuck with her and as any not very smart person she is not flexible enough and cannot change, as any normal person would do passing through life stages. So, the world changes around her, her peers are getting ahead, making babies and more money and she's stuck in that same schema that she etched in her mind almost twenty years ago. This why she feels compelled to peddle the same "truth" even if does not make sense any more: to prove that no matter what, she is still right about the fundamentals of life. It is really a sad story, sometimes I feel sorry reading her comments.
Dennis Gorelikdennisgorelik on March 31st, 2012 10:28 pm (UTC)
Increasing peer pressure causes her to prove that at least her theories are right?
It could be one of the reasons.
But it's likely only small part of the answer.

My guess is that her brain is hardwired that way:
- Verbal encouragement from others causes hyper-enjoyment.
- Opponent's disagreement causes displeasure.

That also explains why she likes somewhat shallow teaching, but does not like deep research.
(Anonymous) on March 31st, 2012 10:43 pm (UTC)
You're frightening me with this "her brain is hardwired that way...", is it a clinical or near clinical case? This has been noted many times in all these LJ HW post mortems, it was mentioned many times. Or, maybe, she is so morally irresponsible that it does not really means to her what she says/writes if three conditions observed: a) she is being heard; b) the subject of discussion is something that perpetuates her self-projected image; c) publications are made in consequence-free environment ("the Internets").
Dennis Gorelikdennisgorelik on March 31st, 2012 11:29 pm (UTC)
I didn't mean "hardwired" in any negative sense.
We all have our brains hardwired one way or another.
I just meant that her brain hardwired somewhat different from most of us. That makes her to seek self-reinforcing encouragement and avoid negative feedback.
That said - she's not extreme in avoiding negative feedback. Even LJ is full of examples of more extreme "I'm always right" cases.

Another important consideration here is that while being different, she's in many ways is similar to us.
In particular, I personally have more common with her than with average Internet user. We both like:
- Discussions.
- LJ.
- Knowledge in general.
- Certain set of topics ("Who's guilty in the murder", "How to treat animals", "Taxes", "Education", "Psychology", etc.)
We both know a lot about the worlds and multiple cultures.
We both are more stubborn/determined than average Joe.
We both do not like violence.

At the same time there are some important differences.
I think that the key difference is that we seek discussions for different reasons.

For me discussion is a tool to prove or disprove my ideas and correct them if necessary.
For her discussion is a tool for getting positive reinforcement for her ideas.
So for me the part in the discussion when I turned out to be wrong - is the best part.
For her - it's the worst and she's actively avoiding it.

I believe that such seemingly small difference in handling discussions result in huge difference over the years.

What does "HW" in "LJ HW" mean?
(Anonymous) on March 31st, 2012 11:58 pm (UTC)
Thank you for your feedback, it definitely makes sense.

"LJ HW" means "Live Journal Holy War" (холивар, oдним словом).

Discussions I like, but not in the shape and form I find them in the LJ. This is one of the reasons I left LJ in 2005. I am a part of some pretty sophisticated discourse six days a week; I dont need this детский сад. Only for entertainment value, when I have time; and that is why I like her comments so much. Unfortunately, as any other not so sharp person, she is not very flexible, she lacks basic sense of humor and takes herself too seriously. Sad case of being too self-absorbed.
Dennis Gorelikdennisgorelik on April 1st, 2012 03:21 am (UTC)
What "sophisticated discourse" do you mean?
Some professional discussions?
(Anonymous) on April 1st, 2012 09:24 am (UTC)
Yes, professional discussions
(Anonymous) on March 31st, 2012 10:23 pm (UTC)
Sorry, still making my way around the iPad virtual keyboard, and it tends to make decisions for me :)